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		<title>TGFWT #17: Frozen rosy apple foam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Lersch</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned in the previous post I put the leftover rose froam from TGRWT #16 in the freezer and was surprised by the result. Inspired by this I thought I would extend this and substitute apple juice for water for TGRWT #17. As apple juice is quite sweet I started off with 20 g [...]]]></description>
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<p>As I mentioned in the <a href="http://blog.khymos.org/2009/04/27/tgrwt-reminder-and-frozen-rose-foam/">previous</a> post I put the leftover <a href="http://blog.khymos.org/2009/03/31/tgrwt-16-roasted-chicken-with-rose-foam/">rose froam</a> from TGRWT #16 in the freezer and was surprised by the result. Inspired by this I thought I would extend this and substitute apple juice for water for <a href="http://matmolekyler.taffel.se/2009/04/03/tgrwt-17-the-days-of-wine-and-roses-edition/">TGRWT #17</a>. As apple juice is quite sweet I started off with 20 g sugar, but once frozen it lacked sweetness and even was a litte icy, so I upped the amount to 40 g. The picture above may suggest that the foam could be served for dessert, but read the verdict before you make huge amounts of the foam.</p>
<p><span id="more-1570"></span><strong>Frozen rosy apple foam</strong><br />
2.1 g xanthan (0.50%)<br />
3.6 g methyl cellulose (0.85%)<br />
40 g sugar<br />
6.5 g rose water<br />
300 g apple juice<br />
70 g lemon juice</p>
<p>Grind xanthan, methyl cellulose and sugar in mortar (easier dispersion of hydrocolloid in water). Mix liquids in a bowl and disperse sugar and hydrocolloids into solution with a hand held <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00061MNIA/kjemiihverdao-20">immersion blender</a>. For better foam production change to tilted disk attachmend or use an electric whisk. Freeze.</p>
<p><img src="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/05/rose-water-bottle.jpg" alt="" title="" width="620" height="620" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1571" /></p>
<p>Verdict: Aroma wise I was quite satisfied and even my wife liked it. The <strong>rose flavor was pronounced but not overwhelming and balanced nicely with the apple</strong>. I had to use quite a lot of lemon juice though to get it acidic enough for my taste. The <strong>texture was not as smooth as I had hoped for</strong> however. It was a little icy and even brittle when scooped and certainly need improvement if I&#8217;m to make this again. Another disappointment was the <strong>aftertaste</strong> &#8211; it was actually not good at all. I suspect that it&#8217;s one of the hydrocolloids. <strong>Anyone have similar experiences?</strong> As it is now I would not serve the frozen foam as a dessert because of the aftertaste. But it could work well as an element in a dish. And I was thinking if adding a little fat, for instance as cream, could help both the texture and remedy the aftertaste?</p>
<p><img src="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/05/frozen-rose-apple-foam-details.jpg" alt="" title="" width="620" height="620" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1572" /><br />
<em>I only used my new <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Fie%3DUTF8%26x%3D0%26ref%255F%3Dnb%255Fss%255Fgw%26y%3D0%26field-keywords%3Dbamix%2520blender%26url%3Dsearch-alias%253Daps&#038;tag=kjemiihverdao-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957">Bamix</a> for dispersion and whipping this time. First with the knife attachment for dispersion (top left) and then with the tilted disk for whipping (top right). Compared with the <a href="http://blog.khymos.org/2009/03/31/tgrwt-16-roasted-chicken-with-rose-foam/">rose foam</a> I made for TGRWT #16 using a conventional hand mixer the bubble size was more non-uniform when using the Bamix (bottom left). The foam scoops nicely when frozen, but texture leaves a little to desire (bottom right).</em></p>
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		<title>TGRWT reminder and frozen rose foam</title>
		<link>http://blog.khymos.org/2009/04/27/tgrwt-reminder-and-frozen-rose-foam/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Lersch</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rose foam at room temperature Just a small reminder that the deadline for the current round of TGRWT #17 is a little later than usual: May 8th. I took the picture above for last month&#8217;s TGRWT (where it was combined with chicken) and came to think that it actually qualifies for this month&#8217;s TGRWT as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/04/rose-foam-spoon-2.jpg"><img src="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/04/rose-foam-spoon-2.jpg" alt="rose-foam-spoon-2" title="rose-foam-spoon-2" width="620" height="620" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1553" /></a> <em>Rose foam at room temperature</em></p>
<p>Just a small reminder that the deadline for the current round of <a href="http://matmolekyler.taffel.se/2009/04/03/tgrwt-17-the-days-of-wine-and-roses-edition/">TGRWT #17</a> is a little later than usual: May 8th. I took the  picture above for last month&#8217;s TGRWT (where it was combined with chicken) and came to think that it actually qualifies for this month&#8217;s TGRWT as well. It&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.khymos.org/2009/03/31/tgrwt-16-roasted-chicken-with-rose-foam/">rose foam</a> on a spoon with apple, celery and almonds, and the foam is sprinkled with a little pepper. </p>
<p>As an experiment I <strong>tried to freeze the leftover rose foam and was quite surprised by the resulting texture</strong>. <span id="more-1555"></span>It was easy to scoop due to the incorporated air and had a nice mouth feel. There were no ice crystals and the texture was almost a little chewy. What would one call this? Ice cream? Sorbet? No &#8211; there is no cream and the texture is much lighter. Frozen sorbet? Foamed sorbet? Frozen foam? Any suggestions? I think I&#8217;ll make a variation of the frozen foam for TGRWT #17 <img src='http://blog.khymos.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/04/rose-foam-frozen-1.jpg"><img src="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/04/rose-foam-frozen-1.jpg" alt="rose-foam-frozen-1" title="rose-foam-frozen-1" width="620" height="620" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1557" /></a> <em>Frozen rose foam</em></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/04/rose-foam-frozen-2.jpg"><img src="http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2009/04/rose-foam-frozen-2.jpg" alt="rose-foam-frozen-2" title="rose-foam-frozen-2" width="620" height="620" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1556" /></a> <em>Frozen rose foam is easily scooped due to all the air bubbles</em></p>
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